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indianaboy93



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PostSubject: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:30 am

hey, been on here for awhile but never posted anything. Alittle shy i guess. Embarassed lol

Well, i was thinking about doing the front spindle extensions like fearless and many others do but i don't have access to a welder. My question is, do you guys think i could use JB Weld to attach the bolts to the spindles and it not break? My thinking was that since the wheel wasn't riding on it that it would hold up. But i'm a newbie so idk. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks afro
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:06 pm

If the tractor was left stock - maybe. Offroad - no - too much stress on the spindles.

Next alternative would be to buy new spindles or find some off another tractor with the proper spindle length.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:15 pm

yea mine is definetly not stock. (6 in. engine pulley and 3 in. on the transaxle)

i might do some hunting for some spindles off another tractor. i'd love to find somebody who could weld for me. just a newbie tryin to learn. lol. i need to borrow a camera and get a build thread on here or somethin.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:25 pm

When i first moved down to florida - i brot my 82 dynamark ( to mow the yard with) - come to find out the front deck bracket cracked - so i called a welding service up the road and he welded it up for like $5- actually cost more when i bot 2 lawntractors he had lying around - LOL!

Id call around n see what theyd give y for a quote.


I had a 6 and 3 on my 94 murray - ran a 18.5HP twin opposed - thing was TOO fast for nearly stock - i took it apart and ill eventually build it correctly- too much other stuff to do.....
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:47 pm

i might do that. i know i have to have some friend or relative who would help me. just gotta ask around i guess. i need more mowers too. lol. only two at the moment. i'd love to get a rear engine rider.

i might just hold off on the spindle extending until i see if i can find another mower for parts with longer ones. idk. work in progress always i guess
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:25 pm

indianaboy93 wrote:
yea mine is definetly not stock. (6 in. engine pulley and 3 in. on the transaxle)

i might do some hunting for some spindles off another tractor. i'd love to find somebody who could weld for me. just a newbie tryin to learn. lol. i need to borrow a camera and get a build thread on here or somethin.


Please do! I'd really like to see your machine, maybe a video too?
As for the spindles and JB weld, I just dont see it happening! Unfortunaly I think welding is the only way. If you can, try and buy a cheap welder, maybe even a used one! It'll make so many more things possible on your tractor! Mine was £80 brand new, and was worth every penny IMO!
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:29 pm

Chunk wrote:
indianaboy93 wrote:
yea mine is definetly not stock. (6 in. engine pulley and 3 in. on the transaxle)

i might do some hunting for some spindles off another tractor. i'd love to find somebody who could weld for me. just a newbie tryin to learn. lol. i need to borrow a camera and get a build thread on here or somethin.


Please do! I'd really like to see your machine, maybe a video too?
As for the spindles and JB weld, I just dont see it happening! Unfortunaly I think welding is the only way. If you can, try and buy a cheap welder, maybe even a used one! It'll make so many more things possible on your tractor! Mine was £80 brand new, and was worth every penny IMO!
cheers


If i get some time and a camera i'll post something. its nothing special. just a 1989 craftsman, 12hp briggs, 5 speed, (had a 38 in deck, keyword had. lol) only thing i've done is the pullies and i borrowed fearless's throttle idea using a bike brake handle.

Yea, it sounds like i'll have to find a welder or someone with one. i put the bigger wheels on just to see how it would look and i loved it. so i'm dieing to find a way to put them on.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:04 am

Just make sure when you put rear wheels on the front, to pack it with as much grease as possible. That keyway in the rear wheels could wear down the spindle if you dont!
Large front wheen are really cool though
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:06 am

yea, i got a big tub of grease just waitin for me to use. i wouldn't want to ruin my spindles. i got a yard machines rider but it's spindles and axle shafts are alot smaller than any other mower i've had. i was going to use it for parts but it looks like it's parts only fit itself. ugh, all parts need to be interchangable. lol

might go tractor hunting this weekend, should be fun. parents don't want all the stuff in the yard but its been worse. (one time had five mowers and 35 bicycles) Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:07 am

Better yet , if you dont really care alot about those wheels- use a file n file the keyway edges round so it wont tear up the spindles.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:50 am

Here are some pictures of a No Weld spindle. I haven't tried it yet but I found it on another forum.
steve lord from DIY Go Karts wrote:

Hi Guys,

These are not original ideas, but rather gathered from different sources (books, friends, etc.). So . . .


These spindles were made by using items bought from most hardware stores.

I can't weld . . . so that was out of the question . . . although, yes, I had someone weld the spindle brackets (made of angle iron) together and then to the kart.

The T-Pipe is 1/2 inch . . . and has pipe nipples that we cut and then screwed into each of the vertical sides to take up the small space that would have been between the T-Pipe and brackets.

The axles were cut from 3/4 inch threaded rod and screwed into the T-pipe. They are "locked" in place by the 3/4 inch hex nut.

I didn't have a large enough drill bit to accept the 3/4 inch axles . . . so I "notched" the angle iron to accept the axles. 3/4 inch hex nuts with a large washer hold it together just fine.

The eye-bolt is fastened to the threaded tie rod by a coupling nut . . . and locked together with a single hex nut. Bending the tie rod at the opposite end enables you to connect to the angle iron spindle.

There is a handy liquid locking chemical called "Loctite" that will lock your threaded rods in place if you choose . . . although I didn't use Loctite for my project.


Hope this helps . . . let me know if there are any questions. Glad to hear from you!

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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:15 pm

I wouldnt trust that cast iron T in extreme/rough situations . One good hit and it would break for sure- specially with a solid mounted front axle. Neat idea tho.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:17 pm

yep it does look a bit ummm how to say, fragile...
might just be me though.
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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:31 pm

I may not have follwed it right, but are you meant to run the wheel on the threaded shaft 0.o

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PostSubject: Re: Front spindle extensions without welder??   Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:08 pm

Well, I did get it from a go kart forum, guess it would work alright on a 3 hp go kart running on pavement.

They were putting the wheel on the threaded shaft. The whole thread I got this one from is a good read I thought but for our applications I don't think it would help.
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